December 26, 2009
December 20, 2009
I will facebook all this to you cuz I know none of you have checked this in FOREVER! (psst, neither have I)
August 28, 2009
August 21, 2009
I'll post on AP when I get more than 5 minutes to be on the computer...and it's not 7am.
August 20, 2009
August 16, 2009
A: Grace, your post is funnier than the book.
B: I don't think the book is sexist and I agree that Ellis is satirizing the upper class business "yuppie," but there was something way back in the early chapters that made me think that Ellis isn't particularly fond on women... can't remember what at this point so i guess it doesn't really matter.
C: hmmm there was a C I swear...
D: Tom Cruise? I'm bad at the whole pop culture thing.
August 11, 2009
Anywho, I will try not to ramble only because I have to get ready for work soon. In short, this book is hilarious. A perfect satire of the neo-yuppie-Wall Street-business-type (best adjective I could think of) world that young people, especially in the 80's when the book takes place, were being sucked into. The violence and sexism, although not very subtle at all, is in my opinion completely appropriate, as this world of complete excess that these men have been sucked into is completely vapid and materialistic. One of my favorite elements of the beginning chapters, and throughout the book, is how the men always confuse each other for different colleagues, and no one really knows who they're talking to at any moment. How each of them, despite wearing a different Valentino suit and Bill Blass tie, is completely and exactly the same.
I will agree that the beginning few chapters, up until his date with Courtney, are a little boring. They're just sort of Ellis' introduction into this shallow yuppie world that Patrick lives in. He is so passionate about such mundane things, like popular music and designer fashion, so as to blend in with and go unnoticed among his colleagues, since we can come to detect he has much to hide from them. The chapter where he goes through his daily grooming routine is one of the best things I've read (and also is one of the best scenes in the movie). Also loved the scene with the business cards - how something so seemingly mundane to us could drive him into a panic. As someone who has seen the movie, it was very surprising to see the total lack of violence in the first third or so of the book, since for those who have seen the movie, this is not the case.
Ahh I gotta get going but will hopefully write more later! Let's hear some more input!
I agree with Kailey that the beginning was kind of boring, because even Bateman's obsessiveness over what everyone is wearing just seemed monotonous, not psychotic. Because of that, it was kind of a nice--although disturbing change--when within him listing what people are wearing, he throws in his dark thoughts like wanting to brutally kill someone. I'm still not sure if he's actually killed people. I know he has the bloody sheets at the dry cleaners, but then what does he do with the bodies? Also, because of his extreme prejudices, it seems like he would only kill people who he has met and therefore who are known by others in Bateman's circle of acquaintances. I'm hoping that Ellis will go more into that.
In terms of the chauvinistic element, I find it interesting that it's not just Bateman, but all the men he seems to be acquainted with--especially Price. The only difference between them is that Bateman is actually psychotic, although I'm sure it could be argued that Price is psychotic in his own way. I find it interesting though that there are no female characters who challenge the men's chauvinistic beliefs, which like Kailey said, does put Ellis' own beliefs into question. At first, I was thinking that it's just because Bateman sees every woman as dumb or lesser than him, but I think it would be really interesting if there was actually someone who challenged his belief. For example, take the part where Bateman and his friends are talking about how there are only two types of women: hot and dumb or ugly and smart--I think it would be great if he were confronted by a woman who was hot and smart. I'm sure he would have some sort of psychotic reaction to that, but it would still be really interesting to see that unfold, especially because I find it annoying that all the women we've encountered so far are so pitiful.
I'm looking forward to Bateman really cracking, because I really would like less of his narration on clothing and brands and more actual plot instead. I'm trying to think if there's anything else that jumped out at me, but I can't think of it right now. Based on Kailey's last comment, I'm guessing there will be more to talk about coming up.
As far as what to read up to next, I'm really fine with anything. I would say we could finish it by the 20th? I don't know if that's too soon for anyone, but that way we could finish before I leave for RA training, only because I have no idea what my time is going to be like once I'm back.
I cannot count the number of times I have been reading this book and thought to myself (or out loud) “wow, this guy’s a psycho!” Most of the time I would realize how stupid this sounded, considering the title, and promptly looked around o make sure no one heard me.
For the first fifty pages or so I just marveled at how a character can be so self-obsessed and self critical at the same time. The majority of Bateman’s time is spent evaluating everyone’s clothing, looking to score and scoping out his next lay (by the way, the term “hardbodies” confused me for awhile. At first I thought it referred to hot waitresses, then shortly realized they’re just hot women in general). Knowing the general route the story takes from the movie, I found myself waiting for something violent and nasty to happen. This probably isn’t the best way to go since it made everything up to the first hint of action rather boring (though if I remember correctly, the first bit of action in sex not murder…and really bad sex at that, and that’s where we leave off).
So up until now nothing has really happened worth talking about. Ellis is just building up the character: his obsessive compulsiveness, and ultimate chauvinism. Bateman is the perfect example of a chauvinist based on this definition “Prejudiced belief in the superiority of one's own gender, group, or kind.” Not only does he see women only as objects of a man’s pleasure, but he sees himself and his colleagues, all upper-class businessmen and other investment bankers, as far superior to all other “normal” folk, and his hatred of the homeless is all too evident. I’m actually going to go research Ellis. With most novels, the separation of author and any fictional character is very clear, but for some reason while reading this I can’t help wondering if perhaps Ellis is a bit sexist? Or maybe a bit prejudice against the lower class? Anyway, I’ll look it up and get back to you.
Alrighty, what are reading to next? Personally, I think we should just set a date to finish it and then chat again. I’m having trouble holding back, I’m at 160. For those of you who haven’t gone beyond 105 yet, this shit is NUTS!
August 10, 2009
August 09, 2009
August 05, 2009
Then I wake up.... My heart was pounding and I was SO scared!!! Then I realized that I was a goblin frightened of a faerie and Aladin was going to be much worse off so I got up and started getting ready for work... *shrug*
August 03, 2009
Also, the fact that Anne almost fell into a waterfall because the rock broke is great and if I weren't at work, I'd be laughing my ass off, so yes, I see Kailey did a good job with the sadism.
Out of curiosity, when's everyone coming back to Boston? I'll be back on the 23rd...
July 30, 2009
July 29, 2009
July 27, 2009
July 24, 2009
July 22, 2009
Internet is very hard to come by in Maine! The wireless network I usually steal has mysteriously disappeared so I’ve been forced to find another one! But while between thieving activities I have been internetless! Sooo sad!
Anyway, I think we should read American Psycho and we should all tell each other when we get it and before we start reading it so we all start at the same time. Should be a good time! I’m going to try to get it this week; might get it tomorrow actually. I ordered Everything is Illuminated about 3 weeks ago and I still don’t have it so that one’s been put on hold…perhaps permanently.
And Arielle, OF COURSE I read Harry Potter before I saw it! You crazy?! Aaaand Anne and I have now seen it 3 times as of last night hehe
July 16, 2009
I have not even so much as read a page from Harry Potter in preparation for this movie, but seeing as I'm seeing it with Kailey tomorrow, I'm sure she'll remind me of all the details because I know she at least was attempting to read it again.
July 14, 2009
July 09, 2009
July 08, 2009
Ok, so in weighing this decision I tried to keep everyone's interests and tastes in mind. So! Given Emily and my affinity for the movie, Arielle's enjoyment of sadistic violence and dislike of anything too old, Kailey and Anne's ability to be game for most anything, I think we could all read American Psycho by Bret Easton Ellis? I promise it'll be easier to read than the Satanic Verses, but it will make you squeamish (unless you're Arielle).
ALSO, I think (if Anne hasn't read this already), we could all get a lot of enjoyment out of The Tipping Point by Malcolm Gladwell. It's very, very readible even though it's non-fiction (I read one of the more famous sections and it was pretty funny). Arielle's my hold-out on this one, she'll either think it's interesting or...not. It's a good conversation starter, so it might help us get through quickly so that we can actually get the ball rolling.
Let me know what you ladies think.
July 02, 2009
June 28, 2009
June 27, 2009
When are the apartment ladies moving in?
June 26, 2009
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June 08, 2009
June 07, 2009
Someone read something!
I'll talk about mine...
It's always interesting to me the way elements of books are changed to make their movies. I guess I had forgotten the order of events when I saw Prince Caspian for the first time (I think Anne's the only one who's seen it so she may be the only one who cares hehe). But the entire beginning of the movie that's all to do with the Talmorenes and Caspian and such is not how it is in the book. The book begins with the four kids being dragged back to Narnia. The strange thing is both parts, the Caspian and the kids sections, are in the book they're just reversed. makes no sense! Well it kinda does... It really does seem like a more thematic course of events, and seems to make sense that it would be reversed... I just can't explain why... tres bizarre.
June 01, 2009
I think I have a bunch that would be floating around somewhere in there but I certainly can't pick out a number 1. Also, I think all of mine are playwrights, go figure. I love Stoppard, O'neil, Chekhov, T. Willaims, Giraudoux (even though he's French), Shakespeare of course. And I'm sure there are many more if I really thought it through. I actually think Hemingway would be up there somewhere on my list too... love him...
Now I'm going to be spending endless hours trying to figure out a top ten list! oy!
OH! I love William Carlos Williams! He is a poet but whatev.
May 31, 2009
May 30, 2009
May 29, 2009
After Satanic Verses that is... *sigh*
Cuz guess what? I bought the Satanic Verses and haven't read a page bahahaha. I'm so sorry. I swear I will start it soon except I'm a bastard and I have been saying that for weeks. But once I start it I promise I will post my initial thoughts and such!
How is everyone else's progress? Read any other books? I read a wee bit of "On the Road" by Jack Kerouac on the airplane to Florida, but unfortunately not enough to comment on it. Seems promising though. Have any of you read it before?
I must be off to bed now, but I like this bloggy thingy and hope to hear from all of you. OFTEN. DO IT.
May 28, 2009
I did start the Chronicles of Narnia though! I've read it before but not for a while. I'm reading them in the order of the story set by Lewis (the author... though I think you all know that hehe) rather than the order that they were written. The last time I read them I did it in the order they were written and was a wee bit confused. Anyway, I am now on the third book, The Horse and His Boy, but I forgot how biblical these books are! Mostly the first one, The Magician's Nephew! It's like "Yay, lets create the world!" Of course, due to my lack of character building Sunday school as a kid I can't really make specific comparisons but the lion is obviously Jesus! He's the king who answers to no one except the great power from across the lands! haha So yeah, you should all read it! And I am going to finish these and then go search for Satanic Verses... or I'm just gonna go find it and read it at the same time... hehe. Anne did you even like it? Or was it more like "oh crap, I have to read this," or something?
Grace and Emily! I miss you! What have you gals been up to? or I guess more appropriately for this blog, what have you been reading?! haha.
Also, what are we reading next?
Grace: we talked about studying the bible this summer so we're not out of the loop when it's referenced in literature. You still want to do that?